when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
Jo_Sunshine, you're in a very tight spot because of your job situation. I hope your moving out of state helps your situation. Until then a simple fade is highly recommended. Don't do anything "official" like disassociating. The Elders are simply not worthy of it.
Tempest in a Teacup, I don't mean to be mean but I think that brother is on his way out.
when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
@ the comet: "I know of 1 df'd person in the hall who is awake but trying to get reinstated for family reasons only."
Not that it might be relevant but do you know if that person got disfellowshipped for apostasy?
UFCFan, it's a long list, you're in.
crazyhorse, sorry to hear about your family and your loneliness. It seems like there's no hope for those who are not independent minded but you never know what could happen.
when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
@ prologos: "...This is not an underground movement like the resistance in france or the partisans in Yugoslavia..."
It would be great if such a resistance could be formed but it might never happen. Everyone will have to go their separate way.
It's good to hear that there might be three mentally out thinkers.
when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
cappytan, that's a pretty big congregation. Are you fading?
Edit: Never mind the question, I just saw your thread about your wife.
when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
I think that any fader who doesn't have family to worry about might try an experiment with others that are fading and see whether they are TTATTs. They can pose a question like "I've noticed you haven't been at the meetings lately. Do you still think it's the truth?"
If he dodges the question that might be a signal that he is mentally out. You should not get in trouble with the elders for asking that question since it is one that they themselves may pose. Worth trying unless you think he/she might get in trouble.
when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
Morpheus, I like your reference to both Anonymous and the Matrix. As I say whenever the subject comes up: "blue delusion, red reality" - give me the red pill any day.
OneEyedJoe, "...there's probably about 0.25-0.5% ...", a slightly conservative number but you are probably right. I'm just being a bit optimistic with my 1%.
The Searcher, that is one of the most unfortunate parts of the predicament that TTATTs have to go through. After they successfully fade they cannot go back in to find out about any other TTATTs.
It must be lonely being in that position.
when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
Richard_I, good luck with your fade.
I do think that there must be more than a thousand TTATT still ins like you throughout the world especially in the US. I know of one still in who used to live in my JW apartment complex where there's about a hundred active witnesses and 15% of the tenants are disfellowshipped. I do think that it will be risky for them to try and hook up with the others; everyone keeps their guard up.
when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
Phizzy, I believe that most burn-outs are not necessarily amiable to the TTAT. I've known 3 inactives who wholeheartedly believed it was the truth and have no tolerance for those who criticize the Watchtower. Those are the ones who will come flocking back when they go through a life crisis. However, if only half of them learn TTATT that could have repercussions for the Watchtower. Let's hope that happens.
when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.
soon i came to the realization that there were many more.
we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.
DwainBowman:
"I am in the coldest congregation...extremely harsh treatment..."
Have you thought of switching congregations?
@ Giordano:
"Either way over 30% are no longer identifying........ many are just not out yet."
There must be a lot of burn-outs as I refer to them. I wonder if there can be a safe way to communicate to them TTATT.
i have nearly finished writing my 'apostate' book, which i will soon be publishing as a free e-book.
here is an excerpt from it on the subject of evolution and the misconceptions about it held by jws.
sorry it's a bit long, but i would appreciate any feedback.
It's way too long. For example, your section titled Evolution is 'only a theory' or a 'belief' or even 'requires faith'. is 817 words long. At one time it's length would have been ok but nowadays everyone has a short attention span. For example, your "Evolution is 'only a theory'" section could be condensed into this:
A theory is a scientific explanation. It is called a theory regardless of whether it's proven or disproven. For example: Einstein's "theory of relativity" was proven over a hundred years ago but it's still referred to as a theory. Therefore the saying "it's only a theory" is meaningless since a theory can be called a theory long after it's been proven. The same applies to evolution.
That's 66 words or 8 percent of the original. It may not include every detail or nuance that you want to get across but in in the real world it stands a better chance of being read.
If you were to condense every section in a similar manner you may not have too much of a book - more like a booklet - but it would be more readable.
